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Archive for May 28th, 2008

My Concluding Thoughts on Paedo Baptism

Posted by Brian Thornton on May 28, 2008

In my previous post, Les and I finally got to a point where I asked the following question in reply to his accusation that I had built a straw man when I said Paedos presume their baptized children are believers until such time as they prove to be or not be:

So, once and for all, can you please explain EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY what it is that Paedos consider their unprofessing-yet-baptized children to be – saved or unsaved, regenerate or unregenerate, born again or not born again?

The part of Les’ reply that answered this question was this:

I am trusting in God’s promise to be their God. I do not assume/presume that they are regenerate. I cannot say with certainty that my baptized infant is elect. Of course, neither can you say with certainty that your teenage professing, baptized child is elect either, right?

You ask if I treat them as believers. I think you are mixing biblical terminology. I treat them as special in God’s sight and partakers of the blessings of God’s covenant family and part of His promise. Can they walk away from God’s promise? Surely.

To which I replied the following as my concluding thoughts on Paedo Baptism:

You guys are good, I’ll give you that. I still can’t figure out what it is EXACTLY that you consider your unprofessing baptized children to be. Some of you presume them to be regenerate, some do not…some of you grant them access to the Table, some do not…some of you consider the new covenant to be breakable, some do not, etc., etc., etc.

In the words of Vinny Barberino…”I’M SO CONFUSED!!!”

-you say you do not assume/presume they are regenerate, yet you give them membership into the church as if they are

-you say they are recipients of the promise, yet you cannot say with certainty that they are elect

-you say that God has promised a myriad of things concerning them, yet if they do not get saved, God has still somehow kept His promises and is not a liar

-you say they are not heirs according to the flesh, but you consider them heirs of the promise because of who they were born to

AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

I fear that I must agree with a dear Credo Christian brother of mine when he says, “I am just not smart enough to see what Paedos see!”

I’m just going to have to continue following the explicit examples and commands I see in the NT concerning baptism…that is the easiest and most straightforward thing for me to do. This Paedo thing just has too many variations and unattainable reasonings for me to get a handle on it.

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